Pinched from The Mahablog
Michael Lind writes about mythological politics and the tea partiers, saying,
“This is the key to understanding the otherwise inexplicable accu-sations by the populist right that Barack Obama is a socialist or fascist or whatever, as well as fantasies about a global secular hu-manist conspiracy. We are dealing with a mythological mentality, based on simple and powerful archetypes.
Contemporary figures and current events are plugged into a framework that never changes. “King Charles (or King George) is threatening the rights of Englishmen” becomes “Barack Obama is promoting socialism” — or fascism, or monarchism, or daylight saving time.
As in other cases of mythological politics, like messianic Marx-ism, this kind of thinking is resistant to argument. If you disagree, then that simply proves that you are part of the conspiracy.
Inconvenient facts can be explained away by the true believers. It’s hard to come up with arguments that would persuade people who think that Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi are totalitarians to change their mind.”
This is something I’ve written about in the past. It’s important to understand that the political “thinking” of the True Believers on the Right is a thick soup of myth, allegory, and archetype. Stuff like, you know, facts, are irrelevant to them.
Lind traces the major themes of rightie mythology back to 18th century Britain, but in some ways I think you have to go back even further. The ur-myth that under-girds all the other myths is the old Zoroastrian struggle between the forces of Good and the forces of Evil. However, [with righties] “good” and “evil” are matters of intrinsic identity, not actions.
I remember Sunday School literature from the 1950s that showed images of Lenin, Stalin, and Khrushchev standing with Satan, while Jesus bestrode the United States, his arms wrapped protec-tively around a couple of innocent white American children. Even many who aren’t old enough (or Bible Belt enough) to have seen images like that have been influenced by the mythology such images represented.
If one believes America the Pure and Righteous is protected by Jesus, and America’s enemies are minions of Satan, then a great many other assumptions flow from that. Among these is the belief that public display of religious totems like Ten Commandments monuments is essential to keeping America “strong,” e.g., armo-red against demon enemies.
It also explains why the Christian Right wants obeisance to Jesus to be made compulsory. For them, religion is not about personal devotion or worship; it’s war.
And you’re either with ‘em or agin’ ‘em.
Further, as I’ve said, “good” and “evil” are understood to be intrinsic qualities that reside in certain individuals and groups regardless of what they do. One chooses to take the side of “good” by being loyal to the “good” tribe, a.k.a., “us.”
An example of the importance of archetypes in rightie thought can be found in the blogosphere’s reaction to homicides allegedly (she hasn’t been tried yet) committed by Alabama University professor Amy Bishop. Like most leftie bloggers I haven’t written about Bishop because, to me, it’s a crime story, and I rarely comment on crime stories.
But a number of rightie bloggers have blown Bishop up into a Big Bleeping Political Deal, pointedly calling her a “leftist” or a “socia-list.” How so? Apparently someone called Bishop a “socialist” on her RateMyProfessors page, so it must be true. Also, she went to Harvard.
In other words, we in Rational World have no way to know any-thing about Bishop’s political beliefs, or even if she has any. Furt-her, there is nothing about the homicides that suggests a political motive, so a rational person wouldn’t think of the homicides in political terms. Some are claiming a racial motive, because the three individuals killed were non-white, but one of the people she shot who survived is very obviously white. Since these were people Bishop knew, it’s not unreasonable to assume her motives were personal.
But bloggers who have pointed out there is no obvious political component to the Bishop homicides, notably Steve M and Steven Taylor, have been subject to vile counter-attacks from the Right for suggesting the homicides were not political.
The weird truth is, I don’t think the rightie bloggers calling Bishop a “leftist” have said she had a political motive. So why are rightie bloggers making such a Big Bleeping Deal about her alleged poli-tics? Because it so neatly fits the mythological archetype of “left-ist” and “socialist” that lives in their heads, that’s why. As the “A-merican Power” blogger explained, “I have never hypothesized on Bishop’s motives. It’s enough fascination at the simple truth of a Harvard leftist in league with some of our worst criminal murderers and jihadi terrorists.”
Criminal murderers and jihadi terrorists? She went to Harvard. What more do you need to know? People who go to Harvard are like that. And there need be no political motives, or any motives at all, for a “leftist” to be a violent, murdering criminal, because that’s just the way “leftists” are. See how it works?
In fact, suggesting any motivation at all to Bishop, even an evil and irrational motive, seems to enrage some righties, who equate understanding motive with making excuses for the murders. Rational people don’t think that way, of course, but we’re not talking about rational people. We’re talking about people whose worldview is entirely shaped by myth and archetype, not by reason.
Which brings me to why Sarah Palin is a goddess. By that I don’t mean she has actual godlike powers. I’m talking about her role in the rightie mythological cosmos, and why pointing out her obvio-us shortcomings will put no dents in the tea partiers’ loyalty to her.
By “goddess” I mean a goddess in something like (but not exactly) the tantric sense, in which a deity becomes an archetype for one’s own deepest nature. Palin, by contrast, is a near-perfect embodi-ment of an ideal. She is (to a rightie) beautiful, sexual, and mater-nal; she is powerful enough that the Evil Ones who live in Washing-ton and who speak seditious things on the Teevee must kowtow to her. Through her folksy speech and shooting skills she evokes other American archetypes from more wholesome, earlier times, like Daniel Boone. But she also wears modern clothes and has a Facebook page.
Like most tantric deities, Palin has has both benevolent and wrathful aspects. As a wrathful goddess she gives voice to her followers’ deepest fears and hates and resentments. But she also has a bright smile and sometimes carries a baby, showing a benevolent side. Her followers both love her and identify with her; she is an archetype representing their own deepest selves, or at least the selves they’d like to be.
She’s a goddess, I tell you. And because she is a goddess is makes no difference to her devotees that she has few real accomplish-ments, no coherent ideas, and probably doesn’t know Bern from Budapest. It does not matter if she writes crib notes on her hand and needs several months to think of a name of a newspaper she actually reads. In fact, it does not matter to them if she reads at all. Whatever she does is exactly right, because it is her doing it, and she is a goddess.
It’s important to understand this, because it shows us why it’s futile to treat Palin as just another politician or media star. It was pointless to make fun of the crib notes, for example. I doubt any-one could bring Palin down but Palin herself. If she somehow grossly and blatantly violated the ideal she represents, her follo-wers could turn on her. But until she does that, she is invincible in the eyes of the devoted.
There’s a long analysis of the tea party movement in today’s New York Times that’s worth a read. Essentially, the “movement” is a collection of fearful people grasping at incoherent ideas the way drowning people grasp at lifebuoys. It brings to mind what Eric Hoffer wrote in The True Believer (pp. 59-60):
“The power of a mass movement stems from the propensity of its followers for united action and self-sacrifice. … whether or not [organizations] develop into mass movements depends less on the doctrine they preach and the program they project than on the degree of their preoccupation with unity and the readiness for self-sacrifice. … Such diverse phenomena as a deprecation of the present, a facility for make-believe, a proneness to hate, a readi-ness to imitate, credulity, a readiness to attempt the impossible, and many others which crowd the minds of the intensely frustra-ted are, as we shall see, unifying agents and prompters of reckless-ness.”
Because the incoherent ideas the tea partiers grasp are plucked from the American psyche, those ideas can be traced back through earlier times in American history, as Lind says. But the ideas themselves are not the point, and so I disagree with Lind that understanding where ideas come from is key to understan-ding the tea party movement. What unifies the tea partiers is something primitive, pre-cognitive. As Hoffer says elsewhere in The True Believer, fearful people give up individual autonomy to become part of a movement, and within the movement they find the freedom to hate, bully, torment, and torture with impunity — and with the blessings of the goddess Sarah."
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Link to The New York Times
måndag, februari 22, 2010
söndag, januari 24, 2010
Dominionism and the Ugandan anti Gay Legislation
The links between Dominionism and the proposed Ugandan Legislation are tight. The International (= American) Transfor-mation Network is one, if not the main sponsor together with The Family, a group of Dominionist members of Congress, both Senators and Representatives, who share digs in Washington, but are so far known mostly for their sexual scandals.
The point is to Christianize the Governments of the World through "Christian domination in business and the marketplace", even the "Unification of the marketplace and the pulpit”.
This, I remind you, is the Taliban of the western hemisphere. This is where the Supreme Court’s absurd decision to break with the established wisdom of the last century handing over American politics to lobbyists for big Corporations, makes sense.
The draconic Ugandan proposals are the testing ground. These days they are organising the PrayforNewark Project in Newark, New Jersey.
I refer you to the Link from Talk to Action.
and especially the video in the Link fromTelling Secrets by Elizabeth Kaeton, an Episcopal Priest in The Diocese of Newark.
Also there is this from Rachel Maddow: Maddow: The Uganda-US fundie connection
The point is to Christianize the Governments of the World through "Christian domination in business and the marketplace", even the "Unification of the marketplace and the pulpit”.
This, I remind you, is the Taliban of the western hemisphere. This is where the Supreme Court’s absurd decision to break with the established wisdom of the last century handing over American politics to lobbyists for big Corporations, makes sense.
The draconic Ugandan proposals are the testing ground. These days they are organising the PrayforNewark Project in Newark, New Jersey.
I refer you to the Link from Talk to Action.
and especially the video in the Link fromTelling Secrets by Elizabeth Kaeton, an Episcopal Priest in The Diocese of Newark.
Also there is this from Rachel Maddow: Maddow: The Uganda-US fundie connection
Coup d'Etat in the USA
The United State’s Supreme Court has in a decision, referencing the 1st Amendment on Free Speech, let political campaign money free, also from “general funds” within 60 days of an election. This has been regulated since the Age of the Trusts, lately through the McCain/Feingold Campaign Finance Bill. Direct contribution to candidates as hitherto is not affected.
This is in reality a Coup d'Etat and the political landscape is expected to change from Oligarchy to Corporativism if this decision cannot be circumvented through legislation or yet another Amendment to the Constitution. A critical article on Citizen Link an outlet of Focus on the Family (!) is found under the Headline.
A worrying factor in the background is what is generally called Dominionism. The efforts, since a few decades back, by some Calvinist Sects to establish the OT laws of men as the law of the land, proscribing the Civil Rights of women, gays, and so on. More on that in the next post.
Remains to be seen if the Supreme Court in its decision has not overreached itself… Maybe Chief Justice Roberts is not quite as clever as he thinks.
I refer to what I wrote on the 30th of September 2005 after he was appointed:
The three part Separation of Powers (Europe traditionally has two since the 1st Millennium) of Mr le Baron de la Brède et de Montesquieu gives the Judiciary great and increasing political clout, which – not surprisingly – is politicized in ways unthinkable to us. Local attorneys and judges are politically elected, and federal judges are nominated by the Executive (the President) and confirmed by the Legislative power (the US Senate).
Before the Judiciary Committee of the Senate Roberts – politely but firmly – declined to reveal how he views the Constitution versus Legislation and Civil Rights, or certain well known cases such as Roe versus Wade, and others. He only conceded that precedence is important and often binding, but he wouldn’t way how he would act as Chief Justice.
The latter is to no little degree quite right, because Roberts in reality has been a judge for less than 2 years ;=)
This makes Roberts an unknown entity. Nor has the Administra-tion released more than a fraction of the records the Judiciary Committee asked for from Roberts’ work for the Administration 20 years ago.
One has appointed a man of no properties. In any other system he would – as a matter of course – have been put on waiting for another 5 or 10 years…
Personally I am quite worried about this. Not only because of the choice of a perfectly un-known person to influence American Society (and by implication us all) for the next few decades, but also because of what I know about the English Law Lords.
The British equivalent to the Supreme Court is made up of a dozen Lords of Appeal in Ordinary, supplied by as many others who are no longer in Ordinary, but yet haven't attained the age of 75, or other jurists who have been elevated to the Peerage.
The Lords of Appeal are naturally among the Best, the highest Paid and the Brightest there are, but they are not men without properties.
No one becomes one of the Worlds best Jurists for being brilliant at judicial niceties.
In stead we find among the Lords of Appeal a strong devotion to the Law as such, to the Principles of the Rule by Law, and to Human Rights – precicely what Judge Roberts didn’t have anything to say about.
In the cases I know somewhat closer this comes out of deep personal experience. Several of the Lords of Appeal originate from South Africa and have been formed by their years under Apartheid before they moved to the “motherland” – as it still was those days – and could fulfil their dream to devote themselves to the Value and Rights of Human Beings.
In one case I know that this devotion goes back yet another generation – to that of my Grandparents – and an insight about the horrors of Nazism, in a life-long effort, all from the 1920-ies, in co-operation, also with good persons within the Church of Sweden, for Freedom and Democracy in Europe.
This is in reality a Coup d'Etat and the political landscape is expected to change from Oligarchy to Corporativism if this decision cannot be circumvented through legislation or yet another Amendment to the Constitution. A critical article on Citizen Link an outlet of Focus on the Family (!) is found under the Headline.
A worrying factor in the background is what is generally called Dominionism. The efforts, since a few decades back, by some Calvinist Sects to establish the OT laws of men as the law of the land, proscribing the Civil Rights of women, gays, and so on. More on that in the next post.
Remains to be seen if the Supreme Court in its decision has not overreached itself… Maybe Chief Justice Roberts is not quite as clever as he thinks.
I refer to what I wrote on the 30th of September 2005 after he was appointed:
The three part Separation of Powers (Europe traditionally has two since the 1st Millennium) of Mr le Baron de la Brède et de Montesquieu gives the Judiciary great and increasing political clout, which – not surprisingly – is politicized in ways unthinkable to us. Local attorneys and judges are politically elected, and federal judges are nominated by the Executive (the President) and confirmed by the Legislative power (the US Senate).
Before the Judiciary Committee of the Senate Roberts – politely but firmly – declined to reveal how he views the Constitution versus Legislation and Civil Rights, or certain well known cases such as Roe versus Wade, and others. He only conceded that precedence is important and often binding, but he wouldn’t way how he would act as Chief Justice.
The latter is to no little degree quite right, because Roberts in reality has been a judge for less than 2 years ;=)
This makes Roberts an unknown entity. Nor has the Administra-tion released more than a fraction of the records the Judiciary Committee asked for from Roberts’ work for the Administration 20 years ago.
One has appointed a man of no properties. In any other system he would – as a matter of course – have been put on waiting for another 5 or 10 years…
Personally I am quite worried about this. Not only because of the choice of a perfectly un-known person to influence American Society (and by implication us all) for the next few decades, but also because of what I know about the English Law Lords.
The British equivalent to the Supreme Court is made up of a dozen Lords of Appeal in Ordinary, supplied by as many others who are no longer in Ordinary, but yet haven't attained the age of 75, or other jurists who have been elevated to the Peerage.
The Lords of Appeal are naturally among the Best, the highest Paid and the Brightest there are, but they are not men without properties.
No one becomes one of the Worlds best Jurists for being brilliant at judicial niceties.
In stead we find among the Lords of Appeal a strong devotion to the Law as such, to the Principles of the Rule by Law, and to Human Rights – precicely what Judge Roberts didn’t have anything to say about.
In the cases I know somewhat closer this comes out of deep personal experience. Several of the Lords of Appeal originate from South Africa and have been formed by their years under Apartheid before they moved to the “motherland” – as it still was those days – and could fulfil their dream to devote themselves to the Value and Rights of Human Beings.
In one case I know that this devotion goes back yet another generation – to that of my Grandparents – and an insight about the horrors of Nazism, in a life-long effort, all from the 1920-ies, in co-operation, also with good persons within the Church of Sweden, for Freedom and Democracy in Europe.
söndag, januari 17, 2010
What can happen on Facebook.
I want to talk about Facebook. A while back I was befriended by a lady not of my usual acquaintances, who are generally Episcopali-an, Modern, pro Women, pro Gay and Liberal. I have noticed since that she has befriended several of my acquaintances but I still wonder what her intentions were. What she posts herself is the usual anti Obama propaganda of the Tea Baggers, the Birthers, and so on… Plus the occassional "devotional" which strikes me as just as politic as anything.
But I want to talk about a particular thread. I find it illustrative of the Animosity, Hate and Frustration, which have characterized American Politics lately.
I find this animosity most worrying for the well being and cohe-siveness of American Society – and so for all others (what hap-pens in the USA, happens here 10 years later). And I see it as a residue of both the Americas’ Colonial past.
In Massachusetts the Senate Seat held for many years by late Senator Ted Kennedy, the younger brother of murdered President John. F. K. and Senator Robert K, is up for grabs. The by-election campaign seems to get ruff. Some hope that if the contender Scott Brown (who first ran as Independent and now as Republican) wins the Seat, the Obama Administration’s policies will founder.
Certainly, there will not be the 60 Votes sometimes claimed necessary for (partial!) Health Reform and Economic Restoration.
The post which caused the thread was about the Democratic can-didate in the race, Martha Coakley, the present Attorney General of Massachusetts. It consisted of little more than a quote, or some-thing presented as a quote by Martha Coakley but had been trun-cated:
"Devout Catholics should not work in the emergency room” with the (wholly unrelated) addition: “This comment is STUNNING These left wingers are so damn arrogant, but I would love for her to say that Muslims should n...”
Further it promised a link to “full article” on something called The Conservative Monster, which lead to a further link called Big Government: What was found was:
BREAKING-Martha Coakley: Devout Catholics ‘Probably Shouldn’t Work in the Emergency Room’
by Jim Hoft
“You can have religious freedom but you probably shouldn’t work in the emergency room.”
Democrat Martha Coakley was on with Ken Pittman from WBSM in Massachusetts today. Martha told Ken that if you object to abortion and are a devout Catholic then…
“You probably shouldn’t work in the emergency room.”
Upon which follows a Youtube with the radio interview in question and this transcript (note the misspellings!) from 1 minute in:
Ken Pittman: Right, if you are a Catholic, and believe what the Pope teaches that any form of birth control is a sin. ah you don’t want to do that.
Martha Coakley: No we have a seperation of church and state Ken, lets be clear.
Ken Pittman: In the emergency room you still have your religious freedom.
Martha Coakley: (……uh, eh…um..) The law says that people are allowed to have that. You can have religious freedom but you probably shouldn’t work in the emergency room.”
So the full quote actually says: “The law says that people are allowed to have that; you can have religious freedom, but you probably shouldn’t work in the Emergency Room.”
I cannot emphasize enough how worrying I find the present poli-tical climate in the USA! The Animosity, the Hate, the Frustration. Others may discuss the social and economical mechanisms, but I say this: Let there be no more political assassinations ever!
What follows is the Facebook thread from comments 51 to 95 (I wasn’t able to copy the first 50).
Nr 51.
Coakley has the IQ of a flea.... Could you just see what would happen if Scott Brown said Muslims should not work in the ER..... Mainstream Media would have a freaking fit!!!
Nr 52.
Catholics should reject the progressive abortion loving tax hiking liberals - all of them.
Nr 53.
I am busy right now, has Fox reported this yet? They will drill this the next few days I hope
Nr 53.
She sees us, like the rest of them see us. We are pawns, not people..
Nr 54.
What does being a catholic have to do with working in the emergency room? Furthermore, if a woman is raped, THERE ISN'T a contraceptive that can be given to her for treating rape! Not one that we have here in the US anyway! What a moron! I hope MA conservatives come out and vote and make her lose by a landslide!
Nr 55.
I think this dummy was trying to say "Planned Parenthood" because I am not aware of any abortion case in the emergency room.
Nr 53.
Right, my ex worked in delivery, not emergency...
Nr 56.
blah blah blah...she is the idiot feminatzy that we real women just loathe....
Nr 57.
Actally Nick, every time a woman is raped an goes to the hospital they give her the morning after pill. If any pro life woman is in that horrible position, she has to be careful because they generally won't tell you what they are giving you unless you ask.
Nr 58.
Martha Coakley, you are a freak!!! If I worked in an ER, I would even save YOUR SORRY ASS!!!
Nr 59.
I still don't understand why she thinks other religious folks would be okay with it... ??????
Nr 60.
As Forest Gump once said " Stupid is as stupid does"
Nr 61.
So Jesus shouldn't have healed the lame and the blind and the spirit-possessed, and the haemorrhaging woman, and ESPECIALLY not the Official's daughter, the Widow's son and Lazarus, cause THAT was raising someone from the dead, without first having received extreme unction? It is a Christian's duty to give all the help they can to poor and the sick and the heartbroken and the marginalised! Is she the Pope? I'd like to hear HIS take on this!
Nr 62.
Any Devout Christian should leave the ER as soon as they cart her in.....
Nr 63.
OOUT!!!!
Nr 64.
What the hell is wrong with this woman?
Nr 65.
I hope this moronic broad continues to step in it. Between this and The Anointed One, The Deliverer Of Hope And Change, The Narcissistic Osama Hussein Obama coming to campaign for her, the seat that alcoholic Ted Kennedy occupied COULD be taken by a true conservative. Bye bye 60 votes for the 'health care' abortion!
Nr 66.
What is happening to our country? How can we fix this divisive-ness? VOTE FOR SCOTT...let him be the 41st vote...and if they keep him from voting against it...illegalities can be argued...it adds strong creedence to the mounting illegalities...
Nr 67.
What do you think that wacko Coakley will look like in ten years? Scary. What do you think that wacko Coakley will say to voters in Ten years? She won't have anything to offer except party-line politics. Phooey. Martha, go home and disappear.
Nr 68.
Wow. Is that hate speech?
Nr 69.
i'm sure this witch will get her due in the pit
Nr 70.
I hope that woman doesn't get elected.
Nr 71.
WE NEED A NEW WORD FOR ARROGANCE, BECAUSE THE OLD ONE DOESN'T WORK ANYMORE WITH THESE GUYS...PUTS A NEW MEANING INTO ABOVE AND BEYOND...
Nr 67.
No need for a new word for arrogance. There are terms aplenty: Just some on the list include ignoble, out-of-touch, inept, boob (which means foolish), morally bankrupt, glad-handing, and liar. No respect for that politically-motivated dirtball who would rather damn the people than hold an honest town hall meeting.
Nr 61.
I didn't know abortions were performed in the ER! The CHOICE TO ABORT A CHILD IS ELECTIVE SURGERY! In Australia, doctors can choose whether or not they perform them.
Nr 72.
That was the most stupid unintelligent remark anyone could ever make sure hope the Ma people have enough faith not to vote for her. Remember Karma, Martha. what goe around comes around.....
Nr 73.
She said this with BOSTON being so Catholic??? Doesn't she want to win?
Nr 72.
Also it has nothing to do with seperation of chuch and state.It is about morals, faith and beliefs...not government. This is how the defend their conscience by saying seperation of church and state. How stupid do they think the American people are. We are much more intelligent that this group in congress/
Nr 67.
It is possible that this endeared '' Freedom of Choice '' is not really about freedom at all? By that definition, a FORCED HELL-CARE mandate is NOT freedom of choice. Therefore, Reid can stick his hell-care bill up his sorry ass
Nr 67.
For those who don't get it: Roe V. Wade is supposedly a '' freedom of choice '' issue. I never agreed with that, but if that is the way the court ruled, then let's apply that same decision about freedom of choice regarding health insurance. By that very definition of freedom of choice, congress cannot force their hell-care on anyone nor require anyone to buy something. After all, it is not a '' free choice '' (and ps, SCREW YOU NANCY PELOSI )
Nr 73.
Hope Coakley doesn't run into a devout Republican in the ER.All kidding aside, though, if something like THAT were to ever happen, you can be damned sure it wouldn't be on the Republican side.
Nr 74.
That is one of the sickest and most senseless remarks I've ever heard. Keep talking, honey, you're taking us straight to victory.
Nr 75.
Get ready to see ACORN, SEIU, & BLACK PANTHERS at the voters box in Massachusetts. No telling what may happen!!
Nr 76.
Lord, I hope she loses, she purposely got the Governor to against the parole board recommendation to commute the sentence of an innocent man, if she loses it will be as much for that as for being a Dem, she is a thoroughly despised woman in Massachusetts, not just by Republicans.
Nr 77.
The so called "elite" are on a "power high", or they are just HIGH on mind altering drugs.....It blows me away!!!Maybe the Dems. and some Republicans should remember the words of ol' Abe.....In fact, I like it so much I am going to post it:"It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to open one's mouth and remove all doubt." - ... Visa mer-- Abraham Lincoln
Nr 76.
What an arrogant witch, no wonder she is so liked in Mass. NOT
Nr 67.
Frankly, it should be that national guard is deployed to the polls just to make certain that those goods from acron, and seiu, and panthers are warned away. (By the way: None of those groups deserve capitalization)
Nr 53.
Get ready for ACORN to recruit 30,000 Haitians for the revolution....
Nr 78.
I'm really amazed at the devout Catholics who vote liberal! Here they are, professing their belief in Catholicism and yet voting for the party that supports unrestricted abotions!! I just don't get it!! One of my inlaws is Catholic and yet always votes democrat!!! How does that work anyway???
Nr 79.
I hope you win! Mass needs you!!!
Nr 80.
@Doug, I'm with you on that question. I read a post by a Catholic who wondered how any Catholic would be right-wing. Then she went on about JFK being Democrat. Most of us realize JFK would in all probability be anything but a socialist democrat of today.
Nr 81.
It's great to see the people paying attention!
Nr 82.
Wow. That's a lot of comments. I got nothing more to add. Ok. I do.... She also refused to prosecute a child sex offender as the DA. How does someone like this even move up in the ranks. Wake up MA!!! You can change the image of your state in one election. Next we need a Mitt/ huckabee ticket (in any order)!!!
Nr 81.
That is exactly what our political system says is ok... If you or your family are politicaly connected then it's ok for you to do wrong. Ie: no paying taxes, sexualy abusing women, disregarding the constitution, etc. It is because we became complacent that we find our country in this position today!We, The American People, have to be relentless in... Visa mer our personal fight against the same type of tyrany we fought so hard to seperate ourselves from during the FIRST American revolution. This my friends, should be the start of the second. This election in Mass. on Tue. will let us know if people are waking up!
Nr 83.
Right on Nr 3. Haitians will be coming here!!!
Nr 53.
People of MASS? Get your act together, because YOUR votes has ruined this country. Kerry and Kennedy? ENOUGH SAID...
Your's truly ;=)
Context, context." Text without context is pretext."
Nr 84.
what a horses ass.
Nr 85.
Hey, Martha, I got one for ya..."Devout Socialists should not work in government!"
Nr 86.
It's time lying politicans bite their lips, and maybe the venomthey have been spitting out will make them so sick, they will just become weak and will fall from power...We can hopecan't we?????
And this is only 36 out of 96…
Another Post from the same lady: Poster through PP:
Obama, Dems cut deal to exempt union health care from taxes Washington Examiner www.washingtonexaminer.com
The White House has agreed to concessions in its health care legislation aimed at sparing union workers the bulk of a new tax. We have seen tremendous progress over the last couple of days,
NN
Can we exempt bho rahm pelosi jarrett islamists axelrod michelle and soros from the WH?
There are several more.
But I want to talk about a particular thread. I find it illustrative of the Animosity, Hate and Frustration, which have characterized American Politics lately.
I find this animosity most worrying for the well being and cohe-siveness of American Society – and so for all others (what hap-pens in the USA, happens here 10 years later). And I see it as a residue of both the Americas’ Colonial past.
In Massachusetts the Senate Seat held for many years by late Senator Ted Kennedy, the younger brother of murdered President John. F. K. and Senator Robert K, is up for grabs. The by-election campaign seems to get ruff. Some hope that if the contender Scott Brown (who first ran as Independent and now as Republican) wins the Seat, the Obama Administration’s policies will founder.
Certainly, there will not be the 60 Votes sometimes claimed necessary for (partial!) Health Reform and Economic Restoration.
The post which caused the thread was about the Democratic can-didate in the race, Martha Coakley, the present Attorney General of Massachusetts. It consisted of little more than a quote, or some-thing presented as a quote by Martha Coakley but had been trun-cated:
"Devout Catholics should not work in the emergency room” with the (wholly unrelated) addition: “This comment is STUNNING These left wingers are so damn arrogant, but I would love for her to say that Muslims should n...”
Further it promised a link to “full article” on something called The Conservative Monster, which lead to a further link called Big Government: What was found was:
BREAKING-Martha Coakley: Devout Catholics ‘Probably Shouldn’t Work in the Emergency Room’
by Jim Hoft
“You can have religious freedom but you probably shouldn’t work in the emergency room.”
Democrat Martha Coakley was on with Ken Pittman from WBSM in Massachusetts today. Martha told Ken that if you object to abortion and are a devout Catholic then…
“You probably shouldn’t work in the emergency room.”
Upon which follows a Youtube with the radio interview in question and this transcript (note the misspellings!) from 1 minute in:
Ken Pittman: Right, if you are a Catholic, and believe what the Pope teaches that any form of birth control is a sin. ah you don’t want to do that.
Martha Coakley: No we have a seperation of church and state Ken, lets be clear.
Ken Pittman: In the emergency room you still have your religious freedom.
Martha Coakley: (……uh, eh…um..) The law says that people are allowed to have that. You can have religious freedom but you probably shouldn’t work in the emergency room.”
So the full quote actually says: “The law says that people are allowed to have that; you can have religious freedom, but you probably shouldn’t work in the Emergency Room.”
I cannot emphasize enough how worrying I find the present poli-tical climate in the USA! The Animosity, the Hate, the Frustration. Others may discuss the social and economical mechanisms, but I say this: Let there be no more political assassinations ever!
What follows is the Facebook thread from comments 51 to 95 (I wasn’t able to copy the first 50).
Nr 51.
Coakley has the IQ of a flea.... Could you just see what would happen if Scott Brown said Muslims should not work in the ER..... Mainstream Media would have a freaking fit!!!
Nr 52.
Catholics should reject the progressive abortion loving tax hiking liberals - all of them.
Nr 53.
I am busy right now, has Fox reported this yet? They will drill this the next few days I hope
Nr 53.
She sees us, like the rest of them see us. We are pawns, not people..
Nr 54.
What does being a catholic have to do with working in the emergency room? Furthermore, if a woman is raped, THERE ISN'T a contraceptive that can be given to her for treating rape! Not one that we have here in the US anyway! What a moron! I hope MA conservatives come out and vote and make her lose by a landslide!
Nr 55.
I think this dummy was trying to say "Planned Parenthood" because I am not aware of any abortion case in the emergency room.
Nr 53.
Right, my ex worked in delivery, not emergency...
Nr 56.
blah blah blah...she is the idiot feminatzy that we real women just loathe....
Nr 57.
Actally Nick, every time a woman is raped an goes to the hospital they give her the morning after pill. If any pro life woman is in that horrible position, she has to be careful because they generally won't tell you what they are giving you unless you ask.
Nr 58.
Martha Coakley, you are a freak!!! If I worked in an ER, I would even save YOUR SORRY ASS!!!
Nr 59.
I still don't understand why she thinks other religious folks would be okay with it... ??????
Nr 60.
As Forest Gump once said " Stupid is as stupid does"
Nr 61.
So Jesus shouldn't have healed the lame and the blind and the spirit-possessed, and the haemorrhaging woman, and ESPECIALLY not the Official's daughter, the Widow's son and Lazarus, cause THAT was raising someone from the dead, without first having received extreme unction? It is a Christian's duty to give all the help they can to poor and the sick and the heartbroken and the marginalised! Is she the Pope? I'd like to hear HIS take on this!
Nr 62.
Any Devout Christian should leave the ER as soon as they cart her in.....
Nr 63.
OOUT!!!!
Nr 64.
What the hell is wrong with this woman?
Nr 65.
I hope this moronic broad continues to step in it. Between this and The Anointed One, The Deliverer Of Hope And Change, The Narcissistic Osama Hussein Obama coming to campaign for her, the seat that alcoholic Ted Kennedy occupied COULD be taken by a true conservative. Bye bye 60 votes for the 'health care' abortion!
Nr 66.
What is happening to our country? How can we fix this divisive-ness? VOTE FOR SCOTT...let him be the 41st vote...and if they keep him from voting against it...illegalities can be argued...it adds strong creedence to the mounting illegalities...
Nr 67.
What do you think that wacko Coakley will look like in ten years? Scary. What do you think that wacko Coakley will say to voters in Ten years? She won't have anything to offer except party-line politics. Phooey. Martha, go home and disappear.
Nr 68.
Wow. Is that hate speech?
Nr 69.
i'm sure this witch will get her due in the pit
Nr 70.
I hope that woman doesn't get elected.
Nr 71.
WE NEED A NEW WORD FOR ARROGANCE, BECAUSE THE OLD ONE DOESN'T WORK ANYMORE WITH THESE GUYS...PUTS A NEW MEANING INTO ABOVE AND BEYOND...
Nr 67.
No need for a new word for arrogance. There are terms aplenty: Just some on the list include ignoble, out-of-touch, inept, boob (which means foolish), morally bankrupt, glad-handing, and liar. No respect for that politically-motivated dirtball who would rather damn the people than hold an honest town hall meeting.
Nr 61.
I didn't know abortions were performed in the ER! The CHOICE TO ABORT A CHILD IS ELECTIVE SURGERY! In Australia, doctors can choose whether or not they perform them.
Nr 72.
That was the most stupid unintelligent remark anyone could ever make sure hope the Ma people have enough faith not to vote for her. Remember Karma, Martha. what goe around comes around.....
Nr 73.
She said this with BOSTON being so Catholic??? Doesn't she want to win?
Nr 72.
Also it has nothing to do with seperation of chuch and state.It is about morals, faith and beliefs...not government. This is how the defend their conscience by saying seperation of church and state. How stupid do they think the American people are. We are much more intelligent that this group in congress/
Nr 67.
It is possible that this endeared '' Freedom of Choice '' is not really about freedom at all? By that definition, a FORCED HELL-CARE mandate is NOT freedom of choice. Therefore, Reid can stick his hell-care bill up his sorry ass
Nr 67.
For those who don't get it: Roe V. Wade is supposedly a '' freedom of choice '' issue. I never agreed with that, but if that is the way the court ruled, then let's apply that same decision about freedom of choice regarding health insurance. By that very definition of freedom of choice, congress cannot force their hell-care on anyone nor require anyone to buy something. After all, it is not a '' free choice '' (and ps, SCREW YOU NANCY PELOSI )
Nr 73.
Hope Coakley doesn't run into a devout Republican in the ER.All kidding aside, though, if something like THAT were to ever happen, you can be damned sure it wouldn't be on the Republican side.
Nr 74.
That is one of the sickest and most senseless remarks I've ever heard. Keep talking, honey, you're taking us straight to victory.
Nr 75.
Get ready to see ACORN, SEIU, & BLACK PANTHERS at the voters box in Massachusetts. No telling what may happen!!
Nr 76.
Lord, I hope she loses, she purposely got the Governor to against the parole board recommendation to commute the sentence of an innocent man, if she loses it will be as much for that as for being a Dem, she is a thoroughly despised woman in Massachusetts, not just by Republicans.
Nr 77.
The so called "elite" are on a "power high", or they are just HIGH on mind altering drugs.....It blows me away!!!Maybe the Dems. and some Republicans should remember the words of ol' Abe.....In fact, I like it so much I am going to post it:"It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to open one's mouth and remove all doubt." - ... Visa mer-- Abraham Lincoln
Nr 76.
What an arrogant witch, no wonder she is so liked in Mass. NOT
Nr 67.
Frankly, it should be that national guard is deployed to the polls just to make certain that those goods from acron, and seiu, and panthers are warned away. (By the way: None of those groups deserve capitalization)
Nr 53.
Get ready for ACORN to recruit 30,000 Haitians for the revolution....
Nr 78.
I'm really amazed at the devout Catholics who vote liberal! Here they are, professing their belief in Catholicism and yet voting for the party that supports unrestricted abotions!! I just don't get it!! One of my inlaws is Catholic and yet always votes democrat!!! How does that work anyway???
Nr 79.
I hope you win! Mass needs you!!!
Nr 80.
@Doug, I'm with you on that question. I read a post by a Catholic who wondered how any Catholic would be right-wing. Then she went on about JFK being Democrat. Most of us realize JFK would in all probability be anything but a socialist democrat of today.
Nr 81.
It's great to see the people paying attention!
Nr 82.
Wow. That's a lot of comments. I got nothing more to add. Ok. I do.... She also refused to prosecute a child sex offender as the DA. How does someone like this even move up in the ranks. Wake up MA!!! You can change the image of your state in one election. Next we need a Mitt/ huckabee ticket (in any order)!!!
Nr 81.
That is exactly what our political system says is ok... If you or your family are politicaly connected then it's ok for you to do wrong. Ie: no paying taxes, sexualy abusing women, disregarding the constitution, etc. It is because we became complacent that we find our country in this position today!We, The American People, have to be relentless in... Visa mer our personal fight against the same type of tyrany we fought so hard to seperate ourselves from during the FIRST American revolution. This my friends, should be the start of the second. This election in Mass. on Tue. will let us know if people are waking up!
Nr 83.
Right on Nr 3. Haitians will be coming here!!!
Nr 53.
People of MASS? Get your act together, because YOUR votes has ruined this country. Kerry and Kennedy? ENOUGH SAID...
Your's truly ;=)
Context, context." Text without context is pretext."
Nr 84.
what a horses ass.
Nr 85.
Hey, Martha, I got one for ya..."Devout Socialists should not work in government!"
Nr 86.
It's time lying politicans bite their lips, and maybe the venomthey have been spitting out will make them so sick, they will just become weak and will fall from power...We can hopecan't we?????
And this is only 36 out of 96…
Another Post from the same lady: Poster through PP:
Obama, Dems cut deal to exempt union health care from taxes Washington Examiner www.washingtonexaminer.com
The White House has agreed to concessions in its health care legislation aimed at sparing union workers the bulk of a new tax. We have seen tremendous progress over the last couple of days,
NN
Can we exempt bho rahm pelosi jarrett islamists axelrod michelle and soros from the WH?
There are several more.
onsdag, januari 13, 2010
Devastating Earthquake in Haiti.
Early this morning (about 5 PM local time) there was a devastating Earthquake in Haiti, just south of Port au Prince. Click on the Headline!
Prayers ascending for Haiti!
Pictures from the BBC
Eglise Episcopal d'Haiti
How to help: Hela Världen
Episcopal Relief and Development Fund
American Oxfam
Médécins sans Frontières
Prayers ascending for Haiti!
Pictures from the BBC
Eglise Episcopal d'Haiti
How to help: Hela Världen
Episcopal Relief and Development Fund
American Oxfam
Médécins sans Frontières
lördag, november 28, 2009
Swedish reaction to Ugandan anti Gay legislation
Translation of todays Article in Dagen (The Day, Pentecostal)
“Sweden may cut its aid to Uganda, if the proposed harsh anti Gay legislation is carried through, Minister for In-ternational Development Cooperation, in the Ministry for Foreign Affairs, Ms Gunilla Carlsson (Conservative) said today in The Daily Echo news programme (Swedish Radio).
According to the proposal Homosexuals may be sentenced to prison or, in the worst case, death.
I think it’s horrible. My Secretary of State has taken this up in direct contact with the (Ugandan) Government. We have expressed our meaning locally and I myself have tried to contact organisations which work with those who are subjected to this oppression in Uganda, Gunilla Carlsson said.
The Minister expresses her particular dismay because Uganda is a country with which Sweden has had liaisons for a very long time.
According to the proposed legislation anyone who is caught having sexual relations with a person of the same gender may get 7 years in gaol. For so called “gross homosexuality” death penalty may be given.
Also persons who fail to denounce persons who are homosexual or work for the civil rights of gay people may be sentenced to gaol.
From 2000 Sweden has given aid to Uganda amounting to on average 330 million Swedish Crowns per year.”
It may be added that the present Ugandan Dictator lived his years of Exile in Gothenburg, Sweden, married a Ugandan and had his 4 children there. It was from Landvetter Airport that he went back to Uganda in triumph in 1986 carrying an attaché suit case full of Dollares of unknown provenance which he originally hadn't declared, which was a crime in those pre EU times of strict monetary regulations…
It obviously wasn't his own money, since when asked to declare it by Airport Security staff, he made an awful fuss... Actually, as I remember it, it was his refusal and untimely accusations of racism that made the Security staff suspicious as to the contents of the suitcase.
In the end he was allowed only to give the name of the Bank through which he had obtained the money. Indeed one wonders who is being the foreign agent here...
Click on the head line to read the original article in Dagen.
Addendum 1.
From Svenska Dagbladet (Conservative): Gunilla Carlsson expressed her horror at the repressive legislation in the making in Uganda, which for a long time has been a recipient of Swedish aid. If the legislation is passed homosexuality may be punished by a death sentence.
– It’s dreadful, especially since this is an oppression directed towards a minority. We have had contacts, and my Secretary of State has taken this up with the Ugandan Government. This is a country we have long term relations to, but it feels rather hopeless.
Question being what this means for the possibility of continued Swedish aid.
– It will be considerably difficult. We may consider withdrawing it in part.
Addendum 2.
I see on my little map that I have a visitor from Uganda...
Addendum 3.
Link to Andrew Brown's comment in The Guardian.
Addendum 4.
Article in the The Examiner
Addendum 5.
Link to Sveriges Radio international.
Addendum 6.
Link to The Times.
Addendium 7.
Box Turtle Bulletin gives the actual text of the proposed draconian legislation.
Addendum 8.
Rachel Maddow has this comment on the American political/religious powers involved in this affair.
Addendum 9, 7th of December
Crickets still chirping at Lambeth Palace... But in less than 12 hours a statement was issued on the election of two assistant Bishops in Los Angeles. Andrew Brown comments in the Guardian .
Thanks to Father Jake Stops the World (right hand bar) for the krickets.
Addendum 10.
Rachel Maddow explains the direct links between the proposed Ugandan legislation and the Washington-based Political/Religious organisation The Family (of the sex scandals and Presidential Prayer Breakfasts), of which both the promotor of this hatefilled legislation and President Museveni are long time members (High Treason, anyone?).
Addendum 11.
Yet another link to Public Eye .
Addendum 12.
Meanwhile, not all is hopeless in Uganda. An editorial in The New Vision , the Regime news paper, makes the claim that the propo-sed legislation shouldn't pass. It seems the American backers aren't so keen on their little Social/Legal/Political experiment, after all...
Silence = Death, whereas speaking up matters.
Addendum 13.
Yet another reaction, yet another link. US Senators do and don't speak up on this inhumane and ill advised proposal. From Rachel Maddow .
“Sweden may cut its aid to Uganda, if the proposed harsh anti Gay legislation is carried through, Minister for In-ternational Development Cooperation, in the Ministry for Foreign Affairs, Ms Gunilla Carlsson (Conservative) said today in The Daily Echo news programme (Swedish Radio).
According to the proposal Homosexuals may be sentenced to prison or, in the worst case, death.
I think it’s horrible. My Secretary of State has taken this up in direct contact with the (Ugandan) Government. We have expressed our meaning locally and I myself have tried to contact organisations which work with those who are subjected to this oppression in Uganda, Gunilla Carlsson said.
The Minister expresses her particular dismay because Uganda is a country with which Sweden has had liaisons for a very long time.
According to the proposed legislation anyone who is caught having sexual relations with a person of the same gender may get 7 years in gaol. For so called “gross homosexuality” death penalty may be given.
Also persons who fail to denounce persons who are homosexual or work for the civil rights of gay people may be sentenced to gaol.
From 2000 Sweden has given aid to Uganda amounting to on average 330 million Swedish Crowns per year.”
It may be added that the present Ugandan Dictator lived his years of Exile in Gothenburg, Sweden, married a Ugandan and had his 4 children there. It was from Landvetter Airport that he went back to Uganda in triumph in 1986 carrying an attaché suit case full of Dollares of unknown provenance which he originally hadn't declared, which was a crime in those pre EU times of strict monetary regulations…
It obviously wasn't his own money, since when asked to declare it by Airport Security staff, he made an awful fuss... Actually, as I remember it, it was his refusal and untimely accusations of racism that made the Security staff suspicious as to the contents of the suitcase.
In the end he was allowed only to give the name of the Bank through which he had obtained the money. Indeed one wonders who is being the foreign agent here...
Click on the head line to read the original article in Dagen.
Addendum 1.
From Svenska Dagbladet (Conservative): Gunilla Carlsson expressed her horror at the repressive legislation in the making in Uganda, which for a long time has been a recipient of Swedish aid. If the legislation is passed homosexuality may be punished by a death sentence.
– It’s dreadful, especially since this is an oppression directed towards a minority. We have had contacts, and my Secretary of State has taken this up with the Ugandan Government. This is a country we have long term relations to, but it feels rather hopeless.
Question being what this means for the possibility of continued Swedish aid.
– It will be considerably difficult. We may consider withdrawing it in part.
Addendum 2.
I see on my little map that I have a visitor from Uganda...
Addendum 3.
Link to Andrew Brown's comment in The Guardian.
Addendum 4.
Article in the The Examiner
Addendum 5.
Link to Sveriges Radio international.
Addendum 6.
Link to The Times.
Addendium 7.
Box Turtle Bulletin gives the actual text of the proposed draconian legislation.
Addendum 8.
Rachel Maddow has this comment on the American political/religious powers involved in this affair.
Addendum 9, 7th of December
Crickets still chirping at Lambeth Palace... But in less than 12 hours a statement was issued on the election of two assistant Bishops in Los Angeles. Andrew Brown comments in the Guardian .
Thanks to Father Jake Stops the World (right hand bar) for the krickets.
Addendum 10.
Rachel Maddow explains the direct links between the proposed Ugandan legislation and the Washington-based Political/Religious organisation The Family (of the sex scandals and Presidential Prayer Breakfasts), of which both the promotor of this hatefilled legislation and President Museveni are long time members (High Treason, anyone?).
Addendum 11.
Yet another link to Public Eye .
Addendum 12.
Meanwhile, not all is hopeless in Uganda. An editorial in The New Vision , the Regime news paper, makes the claim that the propo-sed legislation shouldn't pass. It seems the American backers aren't so keen on their little Social/Legal/Political experiment, after all...
Silence = Death, whereas speaking up matters.
Addendum 13.
Yet another reaction, yet another link. US Senators do and don't speak up on this inhumane and ill advised proposal. From Rachel Maddow .
söndag, november 08, 2009
Consecrations at Upsala Cathedral
Arch-Bishop Anders Wejryd today consecrated the new Bishops of Härnösand, Tuulikki Koivunen Bylund, formerly Dean of Upsala and Stockholm, Eva Brunne, formerly Diocesan Dean of Stock-holm, at Upsala Cathedral, in the presence of Their Majesties and distinguished guests from far and near. For photos, click on the headline!
torsdag, oktober 22, 2009
Marriage Made Gender Neutral
The General Synod of the Church of Sweden assembled at Uppsala has voted to make Marriage Gender Neutral. 176 Ayes, 62 Noes, 11 Abstentions. In force from November the 1st.
Click on the headline!
Click on the headline!
tisdag, september 08, 2009
New Bishop of Stockholm confirmed.
Ms Eva Brunne was confirmed today as the 8th Bishop of Stock-holm after some legal wrangling (unjustified). Bishop Brunne who was elected by a majority of delegates on the 21st of April is partnered with another woman, who is also a Priest. Bishop Brunne will be consecrated on the 8th of November at Upsala Cathedral together with Finnish born Ms Tuulikki Koivunen Bylund, the new Bishop of Härnösand. Ms Brunne is currently Diocesan Dean of Stockholm and Ms Koivonen Bylund is Dean of Upsala.
lördag, september 05, 2009
Biblical Marriage.
With kind permission of the author, The Reverend William Fleener, Sr, Priest of the Episcopal Diocese of Western Michigan, retired.
“For instance, reading any statements in the Bible about sexual behaviour without recognizing that women were “things”, some-what less than men in completeness of humanity. All women were owned by their fathers until title to them was transferred to their husbands. For a man to have intercourse with a woman who was unmarried was an act of stealing from her father, who could no longer expect to receive a bride price in exchange for “giving a-way” (strange term, because it was a sale, not a gift) his daughter.
For a man to commit adultery was a matter of stealing the pro-perty of her husband.
Also, there were no “temple prostitutes”. Prostitutes sell sex for money. Baal temple priestess were fertile ground in which a man planted his “seed” in order to guarantee that Baal would bless his planting of seed in his land and his wife and the planting of seed by his male animals in his female animals. At the time of “planting” in the priestess, an offering was given to the Baal temple, but it was not to pay for the sex act.
By the time the Hebrews spread into the land after the Exodus, the Baalists had found out that some men’s families were in danger of not having good crops because those men could not respond to the female bodies of the priestess and plant their seed in them. The had chosen a few of such men and made them priests, to which the same-sex oriented family heads could go to plant their seed and guarantee Baal’s gift of grain to feed their families.
The women counted for nothing except receptacles, and inter-course with them was considered essential to good crops, not as stealing/adultery.
Such acts were abominations, not morally because they were adultery or same-sex sexual activity, but because they were acts of worship of Baal, not Yahweh, and made a man “unclean” and thus excluded from Yahweh worship.
Asking the people who had been farming the “promised” land for many generations how to guarantee good crops was no different from the English colonists in this country following the advice of Native Americans to put a bit of fish in with each mound of 4-5 corn seeds. The difference between the two is that the colonists considered the American Indians to be ignorant savages, and missed the “worship” content of the natives’ connection with the land and the Great Spirit who had given the land.
“The plain meaning of Scripture” has to take into account the meaning the words had to the original writers and hearers, not just what the words seem to us to convey in Century 21.
By the way, God seems to have negated the custom of ownership of women when Mary of Nazareth didn’t have to ask the Angel to wait, while she asked her father and Joseph for permission to accept her “call” to bear the Christ child. I look no farther than Luke 1:26-38 for the origin of the feminist movement. It took us a very long time to hear God saying women could make their own decisions, and we didn’t hear it until that idea gained popularity in our society, but it was our message originally.”
Pinched from the House of Bishops/House of Deputies (of the Epis-copal Church) list.
PS The Reverend Fleener has kindly let me know than anyone interested is free to reprint this.
“For instance, reading any statements in the Bible about sexual behaviour without recognizing that women were “things”, some-what less than men in completeness of humanity. All women were owned by their fathers until title to them was transferred to their husbands. For a man to have intercourse with a woman who was unmarried was an act of stealing from her father, who could no longer expect to receive a bride price in exchange for “giving a-way” (strange term, because it was a sale, not a gift) his daughter.
For a man to commit adultery was a matter of stealing the pro-perty of her husband.
Also, there were no “temple prostitutes”. Prostitutes sell sex for money. Baal temple priestess were fertile ground in which a man planted his “seed” in order to guarantee that Baal would bless his planting of seed in his land and his wife and the planting of seed by his male animals in his female animals. At the time of “planting” in the priestess, an offering was given to the Baal temple, but it was not to pay for the sex act.
By the time the Hebrews spread into the land after the Exodus, the Baalists had found out that some men’s families were in danger of not having good crops because those men could not respond to the female bodies of the priestess and plant their seed in them. The had chosen a few of such men and made them priests, to which the same-sex oriented family heads could go to plant their seed and guarantee Baal’s gift of grain to feed their families.
The women counted for nothing except receptacles, and inter-course with them was considered essential to good crops, not as stealing/adultery.
Such acts were abominations, not morally because they were adultery or same-sex sexual activity, but because they were acts of worship of Baal, not Yahweh, and made a man “unclean” and thus excluded from Yahweh worship.
Asking the people who had been farming the “promised” land for many generations how to guarantee good crops was no different from the English colonists in this country following the advice of Native Americans to put a bit of fish in with each mound of 4-5 corn seeds. The difference between the two is that the colonists considered the American Indians to be ignorant savages, and missed the “worship” content of the natives’ connection with the land and the Great Spirit who had given the land.
“The plain meaning of Scripture” has to take into account the meaning the words had to the original writers and hearers, not just what the words seem to us to convey in Century 21.
By the way, God seems to have negated the custom of ownership of women when Mary of Nazareth didn’t have to ask the Angel to wait, while she asked her father and Joseph for permission to accept her “call” to bear the Christ child. I look no farther than Luke 1:26-38 for the origin of the feminist movement. It took us a very long time to hear God saying women could make their own decisions, and we didn’t hear it until that idea gained popularity in our society, but it was our message originally.”
Pinched from the House of Bishops/House of Deputies (of the Epis-copal Church) list.
PS The Reverend Fleener has kindly let me know than anyone interested is free to reprint this.
torsdag, september 03, 2009
Pictures.
Pictures of my Cabin and part of the sur-roundings on Styrsö are now on my Face Book page.
tisdag, augusti 25, 2009
The Books of Concord
In Sweden the circulating edition of the German 1580 Liber Concordiae; the Books of Concord, is a private one, which was made in 1944 after the 1930 German "Urtext" after the Latin...
But in Sweden the Books of Concord have little standing; they are merely an explanation (1660) to the un-changed 1530 Confessio Augustana.
The 1580 Books of Concord are the Confessional writs of the Gnesio Lutherans of Germany, Dr Martin’s spiritual grandchild-ren. They were, however, only achieved through long draw out negotiations among the representatives of the most important Princes whose predecessors had once signed the CA during Charles V’s Coronation Parliament as German Emperor in Frank-furt in April 1530.
As you remember, there is also a Calvinism-leaning CA 1540; the CA Variata, and an Eastern-leaning one; the 1548 CA Variatis-sima.
In Sweden it has always been the 1530 Confessio Augustana which has been at the centre of discussions… meaning that in the 1563 Liquorist quarrel the opposition (Huguenot Senator Beur-reus, former teacher to the sons of King Gustaf I) claimed the 1530 CA, but quoted the Variata ;=) calling Lutheran Arch Bishop Laurentius Petri (the second longest serving to date) a Roman…
In fact the penultimate Provincial Synod, the famous 1593 Upsala Meeting changed the German languish version of the CA 1530 in its Confessio fídei of the 20th March 1593. It's only this Confessio fídei, published in 1594 and never reprinted (it’s the contents not the letter, even less the print, which is valid in the Church) which is the Confession of the Church of Sweden, despite what the 19th century Pietists say.
The 1st Article of the 1593 Confessio fídei retains the 3 Old Church formulas; the Apostolicum (largely a Roman Baptism Confession of the 2nd century, the filioque being Carolingian: the Council of Frankfurt 795), the Nicenum (first adopted not in Nicea 325 but in Constantinoples in 394), the Anastasianum (Spanish/Carolin-gian, only ever used in monasteries – its inclusion being the influ-ence of Melanchthon’s Academic Reform humanism), as well as the un-changed CA 1530.
The 2nd Article affirms God's Pure (“pure” meaning Gospel only, refuting Works) and Salvific Word as expressed by the Writs of the Holy Prophets, Evangelists and Apostles (this is a refutal of the Calvinist formula “the Prophets and the Apostles”, the OT minus the OT "Apocrypha" plus the NT plus the NT Apocrypha, the Gnosticist/Philosophical Alexandrian deutero-canonical (as best) writs, so dear to Calvinism ;=)
It also states that these comprise all that is necessary.
Further it affirms the church teaching in the Age of Old King Gus-taff I and the 1571 Church order of Arch Bishop Lars.
It also rejects remaining “unnecessary ceremonies”; candles, mo-ving the Missal from right to left, bells at elevation… saying that the Priest shall teach the people to drop these – but without anger and noise… (it’s doubtful if this actually happened before the 19th century).
The 3rd Article rejects the (2nd) Baptismal exorcism, come back in our days (this was Calvinist influence – the Kings from Charles IX were Calvinists until Adolph Frederic of Holstein-Gottorp, who had been the Lutheran Bishop of Lübeck).
The 4th Article rejects the 1576 Lithurgia (quasi Roman but non Tridentine) of King John III.
The 5th Article confirms the right of private assembly of immi-grated “foreign confessors” (Calvinists) for the sake of Trade and Commerce. However these were forbidden to have churches or profess their Religion openly. This came from a 1563 Open Letter of Eric XIV, in fact defending the adherents (including Berreus’ brother-in-law the Superintendant Ofeegh; un-Cowardly, of Väst-erås) of Zwinglian Supper, after the 1563 Parliament. The War with Denmark had made wine expensive - and the Zwinglian-leaning tried to take advantage of the situation...
The 6th Article promulgates the desicions and orders their publication (in 1594).
The Books of Concord, omitting Melanchthon’s Tractatus papae; his 1534 rebuttal of Gregory VII’s 1073 Dictatus Papae – obvious-ly, the Bishop of Rome wasn’t perceived as a Dictatus problem in Sweden - were only published in the 1730 Concordia Pia, contem-poraneous with the Senate’s eviction the Radical Pietists.
The sole exception seems to be the 1510s, when Albrecht of Bran-denburg, Arch Bishop of Magdeburg, paid for his 1514 elevation as Elector Arch Bishop of Mainz by the selling of indulgencies while the Pope simultaneously was pressed to support Charles V's policies in defence of his brother-in-law Christiern II against Sweden.
The indulgencies sold in Sweden ended up in Copenhagen paying for Christian’s War – which caused a rightful scandal, putting an end to the Union of Calmar and preparing the way for the Reformation...
The Books of Concord. like in Germany, were resurrected in the 19th century by the conservative Pietist in their fight against the established church in Prussia (think the 1830 Agenda).
Slightly enlarged from a comment on a place not to be named...
But in Sweden the Books of Concord have little standing; they are merely an explanation (1660) to the un-changed 1530 Confessio Augustana.
The 1580 Books of Concord are the Confessional writs of the Gnesio Lutherans of Germany, Dr Martin’s spiritual grandchild-ren. They were, however, only achieved through long draw out negotiations among the representatives of the most important Princes whose predecessors had once signed the CA during Charles V’s Coronation Parliament as German Emperor in Frank-furt in April 1530.
As you remember, there is also a Calvinism-leaning CA 1540; the CA Variata, and an Eastern-leaning one; the 1548 CA Variatis-sima.
In Sweden it has always been the 1530 Confessio Augustana which has been at the centre of discussions… meaning that in the 1563 Liquorist quarrel the opposition (Huguenot Senator Beur-reus, former teacher to the sons of King Gustaf I) claimed the 1530 CA, but quoted the Variata ;=) calling Lutheran Arch Bishop Laurentius Petri (the second longest serving to date) a Roman…
In fact the penultimate Provincial Synod, the famous 1593 Upsala Meeting changed the German languish version of the CA 1530 in its Confessio fídei of the 20th March 1593. It's only this Confessio fídei, published in 1594 and never reprinted (it’s the contents not the letter, even less the print, which is valid in the Church) which is the Confession of the Church of Sweden, despite what the 19th century Pietists say.
The 1st Article of the 1593 Confessio fídei retains the 3 Old Church formulas; the Apostolicum (largely a Roman Baptism Confession of the 2nd century, the filioque being Carolingian: the Council of Frankfurt 795), the Nicenum (first adopted not in Nicea 325 but in Constantinoples in 394), the Anastasianum (Spanish/Carolin-gian, only ever used in monasteries – its inclusion being the influ-ence of Melanchthon’s Academic Reform humanism), as well as the un-changed CA 1530.
The 2nd Article affirms God's Pure (“pure” meaning Gospel only, refuting Works) and Salvific Word as expressed by the Writs of the Holy Prophets, Evangelists and Apostles (this is a refutal of the Calvinist formula “the Prophets and the Apostles”, the OT minus the OT "Apocrypha" plus the NT plus the NT Apocrypha, the Gnosticist/Philosophical Alexandrian deutero-canonical (as best) writs, so dear to Calvinism ;=)
It also states that these comprise all that is necessary.
Further it affirms the church teaching in the Age of Old King Gus-taff I and the 1571 Church order of Arch Bishop Lars.
It also rejects remaining “unnecessary ceremonies”; candles, mo-ving the Missal from right to left, bells at elevation… saying that the Priest shall teach the people to drop these – but without anger and noise… (it’s doubtful if this actually happened before the 19th century).
The 3rd Article rejects the (2nd) Baptismal exorcism, come back in our days (this was Calvinist influence – the Kings from Charles IX were Calvinists until Adolph Frederic of Holstein-Gottorp, who had been the Lutheran Bishop of Lübeck).
The 4th Article rejects the 1576 Lithurgia (quasi Roman but non Tridentine) of King John III.
The 5th Article confirms the right of private assembly of immi-grated “foreign confessors” (Calvinists) for the sake of Trade and Commerce. However these were forbidden to have churches or profess their Religion openly. This came from a 1563 Open Letter of Eric XIV, in fact defending the adherents (including Berreus’ brother-in-law the Superintendant Ofeegh; un-Cowardly, of Väst-erås) of Zwinglian Supper, after the 1563 Parliament. The War with Denmark had made wine expensive - and the Zwinglian-leaning tried to take advantage of the situation...
The 6th Article promulgates the desicions and orders their publication (in 1594).
The Books of Concord, omitting Melanchthon’s Tractatus papae; his 1534 rebuttal of Gregory VII’s 1073 Dictatus Papae – obvious-ly, the Bishop of Rome wasn’t perceived as a Dictatus problem in Sweden - were only published in the 1730 Concordia Pia, contem-poraneous with the Senate’s eviction the Radical Pietists.
The sole exception seems to be the 1510s, when Albrecht of Bran-denburg, Arch Bishop of Magdeburg, paid for his 1514 elevation as Elector Arch Bishop of Mainz by the selling of indulgencies while the Pope simultaneously was pressed to support Charles V's policies in defence of his brother-in-law Christiern II against Sweden.
The indulgencies sold in Sweden ended up in Copenhagen paying for Christian’s War – which caused a rightful scandal, putting an end to the Union of Calmar and preparing the way for the Reformation...
The Books of Concord. like in Germany, were resurrected in the 19th century by the conservative Pietist in their fight against the established church in Prussia (think the 1830 Agenda).
Slightly enlarged from a comment on a place not to be named...
måndag, augusti 24, 2009
The Bible Canonical?
Counterlight has written some very interesting entries about the influences on early Christian art on his Blog and today he has reached Emperor Constantine’s time and the emergent Church Catholic. Which makes me wonder if the use by Constantine and his successors of Christianity as a means of unifying the Empire was an afterthought…?
Likeways it seems that there were no Bibles in our sense yet, only lose books sometimes collected, but more often separate: the 4 Gospels in different order in West (Matthew, John, Mark, Luke) and East (Matthew, Mark, Luke, John), the Corpus Paulinum (originally of 7 letters by length), in the end of 14, the Corpus Iohanneum (including the Apokalypis, which having 7 addressees is often thought of as an Epistle), the 7 Alexandrian Catholic Letters.
The Codex Vaticanus seems to have been among the first Pandects or whole Bibles, closely (after perhaps half a century) followed by the (somewhat different) Codex Sinaiticus.
The suspicion being, that they too were the product of a need/use for “unity” in State and Religion.
Remember that to Roman State theory (and all later State Ideo-logy…) these were one and the same. The nescessitas of Unity for stabilitas; the quiet of the State, was a never questioned dogma, up till the arrival of Democracy in the 20th century.
But the Idea that it was Constantine who established the Bible as a "Canon" is heard only in America – typical 20th century Ameri-can Integrism, I would say. Also, the concept of Canonical itself is in my mind very late and spurious.
1st Millennium Bibles were a hotch potch of this and that – to be excised piece after piece from the 12th century into the end pro-duct; the Bibles we know.
Take the big Codex Gigas at the Royal Library in Stockholm, for instance. Click on the Headline!
Gigas is not like a modern Bible. It was taken from Emperor Rudolph’s library in Prague in 1648, whence it had been taken from a convent in Bohemia which had gotten it from a German convent around 1200 (the Bohemian Chronicle of Kosmas having been added in the process).
Codex Gigas contains the OT in the Alexandrian pre Christian order, and with the Historical books after the lesser Prophets, ending with the Maccabees, to which is added Josephus’ Jewish Antiquities and an Old Latin NT, with the Catholic letters preced-ing Revelation and the Pauline Epistles last. Then follow some works we wouldn’t dream of putting in a Bible including the Encyclopaedia and letters (Laodicians) by Isidor of Seville, a Confession (unclear whether Saint Augustine's), his City of God, with illustration.
Then follows the famous illustration of the Devil, which popularly gives the book its name "The Devils Bible", followed by witchcraft formulas DE FURTIS & FEBRIBUS : on Thieves and Fevers, Kos-mas’ Bohemian Chronicle c:a 1045-1125, and the Necrologium or Names of Benefactors, to which is added a Calendar.
In reality the first canonical Bible in the Modern sense seems to have been the short (Calvinist, that is without the OT Apocrypha, but with the NT ones = the Alexandrian writs) 1555 Geneva Bible, closely followed by the Tridentine canonisation (erroneously in Hieronomys’s name) of the 12th century Parisian changes (the Versio vulgata parisiensis) in the Old Latin translation of the long LXX Bible (including the OT Apocrypha), as further changed by Erasmus and the boys in the 16th century (editing out the 5th century Byzantine additions in favour of the more familiar Parisian ones – so they clearly were aware of what they were doing ;=)
A 17th century edition of this 16th century Bible is what often is referred to as the Texus Receptus; the received Text.
Likeways it seems that there were no Bibles in our sense yet, only lose books sometimes collected, but more often separate: the 4 Gospels in different order in West (Matthew, John, Mark, Luke) and East (Matthew, Mark, Luke, John), the Corpus Paulinum (originally of 7 letters by length), in the end of 14, the Corpus Iohanneum (including the Apokalypis, which having 7 addressees is often thought of as an Epistle), the 7 Alexandrian Catholic Letters.
The Codex Vaticanus seems to have been among the first Pandects or whole Bibles, closely (after perhaps half a century) followed by the (somewhat different) Codex Sinaiticus.
The suspicion being, that they too were the product of a need/use for “unity” in State and Religion.
Remember that to Roman State theory (and all later State Ideo-logy…) these were one and the same. The nescessitas of Unity for stabilitas; the quiet of the State, was a never questioned dogma, up till the arrival of Democracy in the 20th century.
But the Idea that it was Constantine who established the Bible as a "Canon" is heard only in America – typical 20th century Ameri-can Integrism, I would say. Also, the concept of Canonical itself is in my mind very late and spurious.
1st Millennium Bibles were a hotch potch of this and that – to be excised piece after piece from the 12th century into the end pro-duct; the Bibles we know.
Take the big Codex Gigas at the Royal Library in Stockholm, for instance. Click on the Headline!
Gigas is not like a modern Bible. It was taken from Emperor Rudolph’s library in Prague in 1648, whence it had been taken from a convent in Bohemia which had gotten it from a German convent around 1200 (the Bohemian Chronicle of Kosmas having been added in the process).
Codex Gigas contains the OT in the Alexandrian pre Christian order, and with the Historical books after the lesser Prophets, ending with the Maccabees, to which is added Josephus’ Jewish Antiquities and an Old Latin NT, with the Catholic letters preced-ing Revelation and the Pauline Epistles last. Then follow some works we wouldn’t dream of putting in a Bible including the Encyclopaedia and letters (Laodicians) by Isidor of Seville, a Confession (unclear whether Saint Augustine's), his City of God, with illustration.
Then follows the famous illustration of the Devil, which popularly gives the book its name "The Devils Bible", followed by witchcraft formulas DE FURTIS & FEBRIBUS : on Thieves and Fevers, Kos-mas’ Bohemian Chronicle c:a 1045-1125, and the Necrologium or Names of Benefactors, to which is added a Calendar.
In reality the first canonical Bible in the Modern sense seems to have been the short (Calvinist, that is without the OT Apocrypha, but with the NT ones = the Alexandrian writs) 1555 Geneva Bible, closely followed by the Tridentine canonisation (erroneously in Hieronomys’s name) of the 12th century Parisian changes (the Versio vulgata parisiensis) in the Old Latin translation of the long LXX Bible (including the OT Apocrypha), as further changed by Erasmus and the boys in the 16th century (editing out the 5th century Byzantine additions in favour of the more familiar Parisian ones – so they clearly were aware of what they were doing ;=)
A 17th century edition of this 16th century Bible is what often is referred to as the Texus Receptus; the received Text.
torsdag, augusti 06, 2009
Father Jake is back!
Woo Hoo! Father Jake Stops the World is back in business! Drinks are on the house!
Now go to his site and visit! His comments on the proposed covenant are as good as ever.
Pinched literally from Hillbilly Musings But I don't manage to get his picture :-(
Now go to his site and visit! His comments on the proposed covenant are as good as ever.
Pinched literally from Hillbilly Musings But I don't manage to get his picture :-(
tisdag, juni 16, 2009
The Colour Colour
Translation of the below:
I am altering the colour of my Blog in honour of the brave Iranian peoples, Farsi, Azeri, Kurds and so on, who are experiencing a new turn in their long and eventful history.
Andrew Sullivan has the updates. Click on the headline!
I am altering the colour of my Blog in honour of the brave Iranian peoples, Farsi, Azeri, Kurds and so on, who are experiencing a new turn in their long and eventful history.
Andrew Sullivan has the updates. Click on the headline!
måndag, juni 15, 2009
Färgen färg
Jag ändrar nu färgen på min Blogg i solidaritet med Irans alla modiga folk, perser, aserer, kurder, osv, som just genomlever ännu en kris i sin långa historia.
Andrew Sullivan, t.ex, har fler länkar. Klicka på rubriken!
Andrew Sullivan, t.ex, har fler länkar. Klicka på rubriken!
måndag, juni 01, 2009
"Pro Life" Murder in Wichita
A Gynaecologist specialising in abortion was murdered on Pente-cost Sunday in his (Lutheran) church in Wichita, Kansas, were he served as an usher. Click on the Headline!
President Obama is “outraged” at this “heinous crime” and has instructed Attorney General Holder to start protecting doctors and clinics. A little late, methinks.
It was not the first attempt. Back in 1985 his clinic was bombed, in 1991 his clinic was picketed, in 1993 he was shot in both arms.
Lately Fox News' Bill O’Reilly has campaigned against him person-ally, and through "guests", in no less than 28 of his “shows”. And-rew Sullivan has the details here
That the somewhat extreme political climate in USA here plays an important part in this and other outbursts of violence is obvious, at least to outsiders here .
However, anti abortion organisations try to distance themselves from the murder. The hypocrites! Here is a short overview of this anti Modern political terror here.
Randal Terry the leader of anti abortion group “Operation Res-cue”, which picketed Dr Tiller's clinic all summer in 1991, says that he is concerned about the possible reactions of the Obama Administration (which he misrepresents, as anti moderns are wont to do), but apparently isn’t at all worried about the murder itself.
Do check Cany's comments on her blog Just Another Black Sheep! And don't miss the horrible video with Randall Terry, were he de-fends the indefensible and talks of "a teaching moment"!
Addendum a must read, Frank Scheffer: How I (and other "pro-life" Leaders) contributed to Dr Tiller's death, in Huffington Post.
Poor wreched country.
Conclusion: The "Pro Life" murder in Wichita and other ideologi-cally motivated attacks like it, seem to me yet another example of the Triumph of Culture over Gospel. The obvious parallel is here.
Christ in Gethsemane told Peter in no uncertain terms to put his sword back in the shaft. Obviously He thought that taking the road of violence makes us equal to the things we want to oppose...
We seem to have forgotten that on the way.
UPDATE 1): Rachel Maddow reported 4th June that the suspect has indeed been tied to Randal Terry's Operation Rescue here. At the moment of his arrest, hours after the murder, he had a note stuck on the dash board with the telephone number of Operation Rescue's Policy Maker Cheryl Sullenger who herself served about two years in prison after pleading guilty to conspiring to bomb an abortion clinic in California in 1988, and admits to giving him directions as to Dr. Tiller's home and church...
Who would have thunk?
Also: here Hat tip to Crooks and Liars.
UPPDATE 2) Friday 5 June The Department of Justice weighs in starting a Federal criminal investigation in the case here
President Obama is “outraged” at this “heinous crime” and has instructed Attorney General Holder to start protecting doctors and clinics. A little late, methinks.
It was not the first attempt. Back in 1985 his clinic was bombed, in 1991 his clinic was picketed, in 1993 he was shot in both arms.
Lately Fox News' Bill O’Reilly has campaigned against him person-ally, and through "guests", in no less than 28 of his “shows”. And-rew Sullivan has the details here
That the somewhat extreme political climate in USA here plays an important part in this and other outbursts of violence is obvious, at least to outsiders here .
However, anti abortion organisations try to distance themselves from the murder. The hypocrites! Here is a short overview of this anti Modern political terror here.
Randal Terry the leader of anti abortion group “Operation Res-cue”, which picketed Dr Tiller's clinic all summer in 1991, says that he is concerned about the possible reactions of the Obama Administration (which he misrepresents, as anti moderns are wont to do), but apparently isn’t at all worried about the murder itself.
Do check Cany's comments on her blog Just Another Black Sheep! And don't miss the horrible video with Randall Terry, were he de-fends the indefensible and talks of "a teaching moment"!
Addendum a must read, Frank Scheffer: How I (and other "pro-life" Leaders) contributed to Dr Tiller's death, in Huffington Post.
Poor wreched country.
Conclusion: The "Pro Life" murder in Wichita and other ideologi-cally motivated attacks like it, seem to me yet another example of the Triumph of Culture over Gospel. The obvious parallel is here.
Christ in Gethsemane told Peter in no uncertain terms to put his sword back in the shaft. Obviously He thought that taking the road of violence makes us equal to the things we want to oppose...
We seem to have forgotten that on the way.
UPDATE 1): Rachel Maddow reported 4th June that the suspect has indeed been tied to Randal Terry's Operation Rescue here. At the moment of his arrest, hours after the murder, he had a note stuck on the dash board with the telephone number of Operation Rescue's Policy Maker Cheryl Sullenger who herself served about two years in prison after pleading guilty to conspiring to bomb an abortion clinic in California in 1988, and admits to giving him directions as to Dr. Tiller's home and church...
Who would have thunk?
Also: here Hat tip to Crooks and Liars.
UPPDATE 2) Friday 5 June The Department of Justice weighs in starting a Federal criminal investigation in the case here
söndag, maj 31, 2009
Antichrist à la Wasilla
A Pastor Hamman, Independent Baptist Church in Wasilla, Alaska, has an article in the local paper Monday claiming that the Anti-christ in the Book of Daniel is a Homosexual. Click on the head-line! Don’t forget the comments section, which shows that the good people of Wasilla has better judgement than the Pastor.
The Book of Daniel is written in Hebrew and Aramaic. The verse quoted by Pastor Hamman is Daniel 11:37b. The pastor uses (as American anti Moderns are wont to do - remember that the Revi-sed Standard Version is probably Communist because it has red covers :=) bisexual King James old translation (1611, revised 1765): “Neither shall he regard ... the desire of women...”
The NIV says “or for the one desired by women”. The 1917 Swe-dish State translation does the same (in Swedish), whereas both the the LXX; the Septuagint, the ancient Greek translation from Alexandria – only a couple of decades later than the Book of Daniel itself (165 BC) – and the King James translation omit the “for the one” necessary in both contemporary English and Swedish saying: kaì epith-mía gunaikån and "the desire of women”, respectively.
But the "for the one" is imbedded, as it is, in the kaì.
So it is not that the King (of Syria as it is ;=) does not desire wo-men, it’s that he has no regard for the lascivious Idol (Baal or Adonis) desired by women…
Illiterate pastor for sure. As one commenter at Joe.My.God. says: “Since the asshat doesn't even respect his own holy book enough to actually read it I have no idea why he expects the rest of us to.”
I must add a reflection. The unfortunate pastor's Bible-reading is only of one half verse. Almost nothing. Further, the half verse only says what it says and means what it means. It shouldn't give cause for any mis-understandings or mis-interpretations.
Yet it does.
And I think that this is what generally happens and has happened, not only in our latter days, but for the last Millennium.
The person mis-understands, mis-interprets something which is really very easy and means only what it says. And the reason are his expectations. What he expects to be there - he sees. No matter what.
Eisegeisis in-reading, not exegeisis out-reading.
But then; Eisegeisis is the rule, not the exception.
Hat tip Eruptions at the Foot of the Vulcano!
More at Box Turtle Bulletin,
and Joe.My.God.,
and Chatta Box.
The Book of Daniel is written in Hebrew and Aramaic. The verse quoted by Pastor Hamman is Daniel 11:37b. The pastor uses (as American anti Moderns are wont to do - remember that the Revi-sed Standard Version is probably Communist because it has red covers :=) bisexual King James old translation (1611, revised 1765): “Neither shall he regard ... the desire of women...”
The NIV says “or for the one desired by women”. The 1917 Swe-dish State translation does the same (in Swedish), whereas both the the LXX; the Septuagint, the ancient Greek translation from Alexandria – only a couple of decades later than the Book of Daniel itself (165 BC) – and the King James translation omit the “for the one” necessary in both contemporary English and Swedish saying: kaì epith-mía gunaikån and "the desire of women”, respectively.
But the "for the one" is imbedded, as it is, in the kaì.
So it is not that the King (of Syria as it is ;=) does not desire wo-men, it’s that he has no regard for the lascivious Idol (Baal or Adonis) desired by women…
Illiterate pastor for sure. As one commenter at Joe.My.God. says: “Since the asshat doesn't even respect his own holy book enough to actually read it I have no idea why he expects the rest of us to.”
I must add a reflection. The unfortunate pastor's Bible-reading is only of one half verse. Almost nothing. Further, the half verse only says what it says and means what it means. It shouldn't give cause for any mis-understandings or mis-interpretations.
Yet it does.
And I think that this is what generally happens and has happened, not only in our latter days, but for the last Millennium.
The person mis-understands, mis-interprets something which is really very easy and means only what it says. And the reason are his expectations. What he expects to be there - he sees. No matter what.
Eisegeisis in-reading, not exegeisis out-reading.
But then; Eisegeisis is the rule, not the exception.
Hat tip Eruptions at the Foot of the Vulcano!
More at Box Turtle Bulletin,
and Joe.My.God.,
and Chatta Box.
måndag, april 13, 2009
Culture Wars lost
Dr James Dobson of Focus on the Family , one of the leaders of the anti Modern movement in USA and the World, the one who de-nounced Harry Potter as witchcraft ;=) who resigned a couple of years ago as chair of FoF, one of the bigger lobby groups over there, recently said to his staff in his farewell speech that the Culture Wars are lost and the USA is "awash in Evil" ;=)
So far, I haven’t seen many comments on this (there is this one in The Telegraph ) but a link on the first page of Huffington Post lea-ding to The Washington Monthly (Click on the headline!), but I find this piece of news most significant: the maker of late modern anti Modern Social Politics in Biblical drag concedes defeat after almost 40 years!
"We tried to defend the unborn child, the dignity of the family, but it was a holding action."
"We are awash in evil and the battle is still to be waged. We are right now in the most discouraging period of that long conflict. Humanly speaking, we can say we have lost all those battles..."
Intolerance and Hate have lost.
But, Dr Dobson hasn’t given up hope quite yet: “… but God is in control and we are not going to give up now, right? ... I have been assured by the board [of FoF] and by many of you that we're not going to cow, we're not going to be discouraged."
Yeah, God is in control. Dr Dobson better start listening to the Gospel!
7 countries in the World (6 in Europe and 1 in Africa) presently allow Gay Marriage, so does 4 States in the USA, some only from this month, with more coming up.
Indeed, Intolerance and Hate and the Re-subordination of women as Social Politics have lost its appeal.
Time for the ancient Paschal cry of generations:
Χριστός ανέστη! Christ has arisen!
So far, I haven’t seen many comments on this (there is this one in The Telegraph ) but a link on the first page of Huffington Post lea-ding to The Washington Monthly (Click on the headline!), but I find this piece of news most significant: the maker of late modern anti Modern Social Politics in Biblical drag concedes defeat after almost 40 years!
"We tried to defend the unborn child, the dignity of the family, but it was a holding action."
"We are awash in evil and the battle is still to be waged. We are right now in the most discouraging period of that long conflict. Humanly speaking, we can say we have lost all those battles..."
Intolerance and Hate have lost.
But, Dr Dobson hasn’t given up hope quite yet: “… but God is in control and we are not going to give up now, right? ... I have been assured by the board [of FoF] and by many of you that we're not going to cow, we're not going to be discouraged."
Yeah, God is in control. Dr Dobson better start listening to the Gospel!
7 countries in the World (6 in Europe and 1 in Africa) presently allow Gay Marriage, so does 4 States in the USA, some only from this month, with more coming up.
Indeed, Intolerance and Hate and the Re-subordination of women as Social Politics have lost its appeal.
Time for the ancient Paschal cry of generations:
Χριστός ανέστη! Christ has arisen!
lördag, april 11, 2009
Moving house
In a week I shall be moving house. From my 1970ies suburban
Botkyrka, Bothwid’s church with 8 storey buildings built by the same Swedish company /the BPA; Byggproduction AB, the Buil-ding Production Ltd) which built many houses in Communist Poland and the DDR, to the ancient village on Styrsö or Steering Island (the Vikings used a cairn on it as a mark to go to the big Slave market on neighbouring Brännö (Burnt Island?).
Most everything is upside down at the moment. Yesterday I pac-ked the china. Tree big boxes full. About half of the books are done. It will be some 80 paper bags in total.
I’ve already sold two off of the book-cases (they are much too tall to take, the room which I intend to have for my library is just 185 centimeters high - Papa wasn't able to stand in it). Five book-cases remain, but we’ll see about that. Doesn’t seem much of a market for book-cases, or indeed anything, just now.
The lorry comes to Botkyrka this Thursday and arrives on the island by ferry on Monday, 8 days. I take the train next Saturday with little Casper in his cage. He detests the underground and the tram - they are too shaky and make too much noice, but last time he slept in the train ;=) Hopefully I shall be able to organise a bit in the house before the lorry turns up.
The house is our old summer cottage, a late medieval type log cabin, built in 1811, our neighbour Lisa Jonason always said. Three sections, vestibule and kitchen in the middle, a room to either side of about 22 square meters, 2 bedchambers in the attic.
And it’s already pretty full, for my mother never managed to throw anything away…
I shall do some repairs, of course. Take down an old cupboard-wardrobe, put up some wall paper (William Morris), put in a shower and a washing machine in the attic. Also, redo the kitchen and fill in a couple of very secondary doors, adding a cat door for little Casper.
Then it is the garden which has died almost completely in recent years when my parents rarely went. When we were children there were Apple trees (Transparente blanches, red Winter apples clim-bing on the cliff, & c.). A Sour Cherry tree, a Pear tree (which long-time was too young to give any fruit), a Plum tree (Victoria), and berries of all kinds.
There also were a few Farmer's Paeonia and a very beautiful old Rose bush with plenty of small, fragrant roses. They were a very light pink but otherwise like these.
Also the flower bed by the gate is gone. So is much of the gate it-self, and part of the fence...
But the outhouse (the one still standing) is full…
So I shall probably be silent from approximately Thursday next to the following Monday or Tuesday.
Bee good!
Botkyrka, Bothwid’s church with 8 storey buildings built by the same Swedish company /the BPA; Byggproduction AB, the Buil-ding Production Ltd) which built many houses in Communist Poland and the DDR, to the ancient village on Styrsö or Steering Island (the Vikings used a cairn on it as a mark to go to the big Slave market on neighbouring Brännö (Burnt Island?).
Most everything is upside down at the moment. Yesterday I pac-ked the china. Tree big boxes full. About half of the books are done. It will be some 80 paper bags in total.
I’ve already sold two off of the book-cases (they are much too tall to take, the room which I intend to have for my library is just 185 centimeters high - Papa wasn't able to stand in it). Five book-cases remain, but we’ll see about that. Doesn’t seem much of a market for book-cases, or indeed anything, just now.
The lorry comes to Botkyrka this Thursday and arrives on the island by ferry on Monday, 8 days. I take the train next Saturday with little Casper in his cage. He detests the underground and the tram - they are too shaky and make too much noice, but last time he slept in the train ;=) Hopefully I shall be able to organise a bit in the house before the lorry turns up.
The house is our old summer cottage, a late medieval type log cabin, built in 1811, our neighbour Lisa Jonason always said. Three sections, vestibule and kitchen in the middle, a room to either side of about 22 square meters, 2 bedchambers in the attic.
And it’s already pretty full, for my mother never managed to throw anything away…
I shall do some repairs, of course. Take down an old cupboard-wardrobe, put up some wall paper (William Morris), put in a shower and a washing machine in the attic. Also, redo the kitchen and fill in a couple of very secondary doors, adding a cat door for little Casper.
Then it is the garden which has died almost completely in recent years when my parents rarely went. When we were children there were Apple trees (Transparente blanches, red Winter apples clim-bing on the cliff, & c.). A Sour Cherry tree, a Pear tree (which long-time was too young to give any fruit), a Plum tree (Victoria), and berries of all kinds.
There also were a few Farmer's Paeonia and a very beautiful old Rose bush with plenty of small, fragrant roses. They were a very light pink but otherwise like these.
Also the flower bed by the gate is gone. So is much of the gate it-self, and part of the fence...
But the outhouse (the one still standing) is full…
So I shall probably be silent from approximately Thursday next to the following Monday or Tuesday.
Bee good!
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